Loire a Velo with Friends

Category Type Name/Description Notes Cost Origin Destination Kms To Date Total
2018-06-18: Mandatory Pre-Trip Night Before
AccommodationCampJarvis Bay Sylvan Lake

Cost for 10 people292
TipGeneral InfoRoute Map

I chose this route because it afforded a nice do-able number of kilometers per day, with a rest stop in a town partway through. This is the closest I could find to the reality of touring in Europe, where there's a little town every few kilometers. In hindsight, I realize that the section from Sylvan to Bentley is NOT ideal because of the heavy traffic (including large trucks) on Highway 20. If I did a trip like this again, I'd just go back and forth from one side of Gull to the other.0
2018-06-19: Mandatory Pre-Trip Day 1
AccommodationCampSunset Legion

Cost for 10 people105
ActivityCycleRide to Sunset Legion via Bentley
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2018-06-20: Mandatory Pre-Trip Day 2
AccommodationCampWilson's Beach

Cost for 10 people105
ActivityCycleRide to Wilson's Beach via Bentley
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2018-06-21: Mandatory Pre-Trip Day 3
ActivityCycleRide to Jarvis Bay via Bentley
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2019-01-27: The Touring Crew
2019-04-10: Hard-Copy Maps
2019-04-11: France and Canada Flags
2019-04-20: The Montague Twins!
2019-04-27: Veloria Luggage Trial
2019-04-28: Front Pannier Racks
2019-05-02: Re-Arranging Flights Home
2019-05-11: Training: Highway 66
2019-05-16: Packing Party
2019-05-29: Don't Miss in the Loire
TipGeneral InfoSouzay-Champigny
Between Tours and Angers

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TipGeneral InfoPlace du Martroi
Orleans

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TipGeneral InfoGiant Guitar
30km south of Nantes at Clisson
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TipGeneral InfoBlois Old Town
Blois

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TipGeneral InfoMusée du Compagnonnage
Tours

This extraordinary museum – an absolute gem! – spotlights France's renowned compagnonnages, guild organisations of skilled craftspeople who have created everything from medieval cathedrals to the Statue of Liberty. Dozens of professions – from carpentry to saddle-making to locksmithing – are celebrated here with items handcrafted from wood, wrought iron, bronze, stone, brick, clay and leather; standouts include exquisite wooden architectural models of elaborate towers and a miniature wrought-iron gate that took 14 years to make.0
TipGeneral InfoMusée des Beaux-Arts
Orléans

Orléans’ five-level fine-arts museum is a treat, with an excellent collection of Italian, Flemish and Dutch paintings (including works by Correggio, Velázquez and Bruegel) as well as a huge collection of work by French artists such as Léon Cogniet (1794–1880), Orléans-born Alexandre Antigna (1817–78) and Paul Gauguin (1848–1903), who spent some of his youth here. Other rare treasures include a set of 18th-century pastels by Maurice Quentin de la Tour and a self-portrait by Jean-Baptiste Chardin.0
TipGeneral InfoMaison de la Magie
Blois

This museum of magic occupies the one-time home of watchmaker, inventor and conjurer Jean Eugène Robert-Houdin (1805–71), after whom the American magician Harry Houdini named himself. Dragons emerge roaring from the windows every half-hour, while inside the museum has exhibits on Robert-Houdin and the history of magic, displays of optical trickery, and several daily magic shows.

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TipGeneral InfoCircuit 1

Partly using the great Loire à Vélo cycle route, this cycling circuit of 2 to 3 days takes you to the delights of the Sud Saumurois area, notably its startling caves hidden across the plain here. The village of Rochemenier conceals a museum on the subject, in subterranean farms. The cycling circuit guides you through countryside peppered with distinctive quarries, cellars, old farms and hamlets. From Saumur to Gennes, take in typically glorious Loire-side villages.0
TipGeneral InfoCircuit 2

Taking you from the Loire to the Thouet Valley, this circuit passes by amazing subterranean sights in the Sud Saumurois area. Visit the Troglodytes de la Sablière, its caves concealing elaborate carvings in the rock, or the Bioparc de Doué la Fontaine, the world’s only subterranean zoo! Continue through fine vineyards to sleepy Le Puy-Notre-Dame, with a grand church. The Thouet Valley, its limestone villages and the fortified town of Montreuil Bellay crowned by a medieval castle count among other sights to relish on this 2 to 3 day trip.0
TipGeneral InfoChartres Cathedral (side trip)

Time permitting, do we want to split the return to Paris over two days and stop in Chartres? I'd love to see it again, and it has an amazing cathedral.

There's a train, but not direct - there's one change. Length of trip looks like 3-4 hours. Continuing on to Paris we can go to Montparnasse and transfer onto RER B, or to Versailles (about 1 hour).
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TipGeneral InfoVersailles
Train options to Versailles: either from Orleans, or from CDG.0
TipGeneral InfoGoussainville
Ghost town near CDG

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TipGeneral InfoVan Gogh, La nuit étoilée

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2019-05-30: Group Messages - Planning
TipGeneral InfoPrep Message 1, Feb 25, 2017
Intro to the Trip
Hi everyone,

Per my recent e-mail, I've added you to our list of cycle tourists to join us for the Loire aVelo tour in 2019: http://www.andwa.com/events/details.asp?eventid=1173

June 2019 is a long way off yet, but it's not too soon to start thinking and preparing for it ifthis will be your first major cycle tour (besides, I'm excited already, so you should be too).I'll send out some \"prep\" messages fairly regularly, and if you have specific questions, pleasesend them to me (others may have the same question as well).

The first thing I'd like to tell you is exactly what you're signed up for. Although I've titledthe trip \"Loire a Velo\", our total route is actually more than that. Loire a Velo is a verybeautiful and popular route following the Loire Valley in France. \"Velo\" is French for bicycle,so \"Loire a Velo\" means \"Loire by Bicycle\". Loire a Velo forms a portion of the EuroVelo 6(EV6) route, and we will be doing more of EV6 than just the Loire Valley.

Let's unpack that.

\"EuroVelo\" is a network of cycle routes defined which criss-cross Europe. Although an entirenetwork of trails has been defined, not all of the route are finished. EuroVelo route 6 crossesEurope from east to west and is one of the most complete, and most popular routes. You can findmore information about the EuroVelo network itself here:
http://www.eurovelo.org/
Here's a good map of the entire EuroVelo network:
https://farm7.static.flickr.com/6066/6151985613_08b33dabd5_b.jpg
If you look for the pink line going across from the coast of France all the way to the Black Seain the east, that's EV6.

EV6 crosses Europe, but the most popular sections are \"Loire a Velo\" and the \"Danube CycleTrail\" (which Brent, Laura and I did in 2015). Our intended route for 2019 starts in Basel,Switzerland and follows EV6 west down to the coast of France. In 2015, Brent and I rode aportion of this route from Nantes (near the west coast) to Orleans. We wished we could havedone more, but we had to get on over to Germany, so we used a train to get from Orleans toStrassbourg, France. We've been dying to go back - France, and the Loire Valley, were definitefavorites for us.

Here's some information about the France section of EV6:
https://en.eurovelo6-france.com/
And here's some information about just the Loire Valley portion:
https://en.francevelotourisme.com/base-1/itineraires/la-loire-a-velo
Here's a Google map sketch of our intended route for 2019:
https://goo.gl/maps/K43vc1ACySn

You will see that I have us starting in Basel, Switzerland and ending at Bay of Biscay, for atotal of 1055km. You can see the elevation profile (on the left) and it looks like there aretwo sections of climb, but overall downhill to the coast. I haven't yet figured out where wewould fly in and out (probably Paris?), or how to get from that place to the tour and back, sothe exact route may change slightly as I investigate further. Also, on the event details,you'll see that Brent and I want to stay past the end of June to go catch some of the Tour deFrance (and you're absolutely welcome to do the same). 1055km in a month (mostly downhill)isn't so bad, right?

Velo Velo!
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TipGeneral InfoPrep Message 2, Apr 10, 2017
Practice Cycle Tours 2017
Want to get a jump-start on preparation for our tour in 2019? Brent and I have a couple of easy beginner cycle tours set up for this year. We'll also plan at least two for next year. If possible (conditions willing), we'll try to set some up for early 2019 before the tour, but no promises yet.

If you'd like to participate in the ones this year to get a sense of whether touring is for you or not, we have:
- April 29/30, Edmonton area: http://www.edmontonoutdoorclub.com/events/details.asp?eventid=4861
- September 16/17, Calgary area: http://www.andwa.com/events/details.asp?eventid=1402
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TipGeneral InfoPrep Message 3, May 14, 2017
Follow us in Germany, 2017
Brent, Laura and I will be leaving soon for Germany. June 1st can't come soon enough! If you'd like to follow our trip (and think about how fun and easy it looks), you can follow us on my web site, DAMDetails: http://www.damdetails.com/calendar/trips/12/2017/6

The site is part planning tool and part blogger, so if you're interested in finding out more about what we're doing, where we're staying, and how much we're cycling each day, that will be posted on the site. Or, if you're more interested in just living vicariously, you can do that too. The link above is for the calendar page (which shows everything, day by day), but you can also go directly to:
- The important info: http://www.damdetails.com/trips/lists/12
- The vicarious living: http://www.damdetails.com/trips/triplog/12
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TipGeneral InfoPrep Message 4,July 1, 2017
Hardships
I know I've been giving you the sales pitch about coming along on our cycle tour in France in June of 2019. I just got back from Germany, and although we had a great time, this kind of trip is quite difficult, and is not without its hardships.

So, in the interest of being completely honest with you about what I'm trying to talk you into, here's a list of hardships that Brent, Laura and I have drafted to make sure you're properly informed. This list will likely evolve over the next several months if/as we think of more stuff.

Hardships per 2017
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TipGeneral InfoPrep Message 5, Mar 4 2018
Brent's Bike Training Schedule Blog

What better way to pass a \"Snow Weekend\" than to start planning your training schedule for our trip to France? You'll probably have a couple of months to train early next year before we leave, but if you're feeling ambitious, or maybe unsure of whether you can do it, it might not hurt to do some training this year.

To that end, I would like to share Brent's Bike Training Schedule blog with you. He wrote this several years ago, but it's super helpful if you're not sure where to start.

http://brentinalta.blogspot.ca/2017_01_01_archive.html
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TipGeneral InfoPrep Message 6: May 24, 2018
Planning for Pre-Trip
I guess it's high time we all start thinking seriously about getting ready for our self-supported cycle tour this June. Here's some info to help you prepare. Let me know if you have any questions that I haven't answered in this message (or previous messages).

WEATHER
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Unless the weather is completely wretched and/or dangerous, I am not planning on canceling this trip due to weather. When I say \"dangerous\", I mean, so much rain that we will not be visible enough to be safe as we cycle along the highways. If we have inclement weather on our France trip, we will have to ride through it or adjust plans; the same applies to this pre-trip. Please be prepared for rain and/or wind.

Please note that, if the trip is not canceled, it remains a mandatory pre-trip to France. You're not obligated to come to France if you do this pre-trip, but you are obligated to do this pre-trip if you're coming to France. This trip is everyone's opportunity to assess two things: (1) Do I want to do this activity for a month, and (2) Do I want to do this activity for a month with these people.

If the trip does get canceled due to wretched/dangerous weather, I will, of course, give each of you your share of whatever refund I'm able to secure for each of the three campgrounds. And then we'll start talking about a \"Plan B\" with regards to a pre-trip.

FOOD
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When we go to France, Brent and I will not be hauling backpack food and cookware. For this trip, though, it is something you might want to consider. Although we will be traveling through the town of Bentley each day, and the assumption is that we can \"provision up\" in Bentley, thereby making backpack food unnecessary, I can't guarantee that. There is an AG Foods (http://www.agfoods.com/index.php) in Bentley that we will check out.

My plan is as follows - I will be bringing backpack cookware (pot, stove, fuel) and backpack food. When we drive through Bentley on the way down, I'm going to stop in at the store (hopefully it's still open) and see what they have. If we can \"provision up\" each day, then I will leave the backpack stuff in the car for the duration of the trip. But, if it looks like appropriate cycle provisions aren't readily available, then we'll at least be able to carry our backpack stuff and actually eat during the trip.

This is just what I'm planning to do. You can do whatever you're comfortable with. Food and food preparation will be an individual responsibility, so be sure you are prepared.

MEETING UP
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We will be meeting at the Jarvis Bay Campground at Sylvan Lake (on the evening of June 18). They have a nice big parking lot right beside their admission hut, and I'm hoping they'll let us leave our vehicles there for the duration of the trip. If they won't, we'll figure out a plan for putting the vehicles someplace nearby instead.

Please stay in touch with me regarding your ETA for that night. If you beat me there, we'll figure out how you can check in before me. If I beat you there, I'll either provide instructions, or come and escort you to our camp sites. 780-566-8327. Text messages preferred (although I'm not even positive that we'll have cell coverage at the campground, so we'll need to have a \"Plan B\", and maybe even a \"Plan C\").

ROUTE
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On the 19th, we'll be cycling from Jarvis Bay, north through Bentley, and then continuing north to Sunset Legion campground at Gull Lake. On the 20th, we'll head south, through Bentley, and then head west and north to go to Wilson's Beach campground on the other side of Gull Lake. On the 21st, we'll return through Bentley and then back to Jarvis Bay. Each day should be about 35km, which sounds pretty easy until you're hauling all your gear on your bicycle.

PACKING LIST
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At the bottom of this e-mail, I'm sharing my sample packing list for this trip, and Laura's sample packing list. Michel may be willing to share his packing list as well, as he is also experienced in self-supported cycle touring.
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TipGeneral InfoPrep Message 7: June 7, 2018
Fully Loaded Rig
See a photo here for a demo of how I have my rig packed for our cycle tour:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10160438596385627&l=6b41e75536

Note that I also have, attached to the bike:
- A pump
- A cable lock
- A horseshoe lock
- Some velcro straps, which are great for immobilizing your wheel. When your bike is fully-loaded, it tends to topple over from the weight. The front wheel swings around, and everything destabilizes. Using a strap to apply the brake to your front wheel stops that from happening. If you want one of these, let me know and I'll bring you one.

Also note, for packing, that I normally stand with the bike on my right. For convenience, I keep the stuff that I'm not going to need until night time (tent, sleeping bag) in the right-hand panniers (harder to reach), and the stuff that I may want during the day (clothes, sandals, nalgene bottle) in the left-hand panniers (easier to reach). The tailbox is also good for stuff that I want to keep handy.

Also also note that I will have my day pack on, which will have my camelback in it, and probably some of the stuff out of the panniers once I'm ready to actually start rolling. In France, I will also be carrying my Windows surface in the day pack.

Also also also note that Brent will be carrying some of our shared stuff as well. He will have the tent poles and pegs (I carry the soft but bulky bits), bicycle repair kit, and food.

Lastly, also also also also note that I am carrying my -20 bag for this trip because I find camping in Alberta cold. In France I will be carrying a much lighter, and less bulky, sleeping bag.

Brent's configuration is somewhat different, with a cooler box on one side in the front, which is great for food. Laura is a master at packing light - she really puts me to shame. To look at my rig you'd guess that I'm carrying the kitchen sink. Perhaps I am...........
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2019-05-31: Planning and Prep
ActivityCycleBasel to Nantes

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ServiceRentalBim Bim Bikes
Possible bike rental option

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ServiceRentalBike Hire Direct
Possible bike rental option

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ServiceRentalSpin Lister
Promising rental options (individuals)

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ServiceStorageBlue Marble in Paris
Luggage storage and shuttle services in Paris

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TipGeneral InfoEuroVelo 6
Rhine to the Atlantic - pretty much our exact trip

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TipGeneral InfoEuroVelo 6, France section

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TipGeneral InfoEuroVelo 6: Loire Valley

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TipGeneral Info01. Route
I'm thinking that we might want to skip starting in Basel (for this trip) and do just the \"Loire a Velo\" route, which officially starts at Nevers and is 800km long.

If we have time at the end, there are lots of options, and folks don't necessarily have to do the same thing. We can:
1) Continue down the Atlantic coast south of Nantes on the Eurovelo 3 route, which is also called La Vélodyssée in France (https://www.velodyssey.com/).
2) Take a train up to Mont St. Michel, which is certainly worth a look
3) Take a train up to Paris

I think 800km is a reasonable goal in a month and ensures that people do the Loire section, which, I think is the nicer section.
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TipGeneral Info02. Getting To-From
There are flights from Edmonton and Calgary to Nantes.

We could look for accommodation in Nantes that we would stay in at the start AND end of our trip where we could store bike bags. Perhaps a hostel or an AirBnB place.

From Nantes, we could take a train to Nevers. This needs to be researched: How to get from Nantes to Nevers by train with assembled bikes. Here are some resources:
1) Crazy Guy's blog
2) Per Crazy Guy, Deutsche Bahn is a good resource for finding trains in France (better than the France web sites, apparently). This makes train travel to Nevers look pretty straight-forward on TER trains. Click the box for \"show routes that take bikes\".
3) Cyclomundo's blog. I like his first sentence about taking bikes on the train... \"First of all, you should ask yourself if it is really worth it!\"
4) Info for how to make a reservation for your bike
5) Freewheeling France article about bikes on trains. Note that on their train map you can trace the thin purple line from Nantes to Nevers:
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TipGeneral Info03. Printed Materials for Loire
I already have this set of maps, which Brent and I used (some of) in 2015: EuroVelo 6It's really good and shows lots of Campingplatzes.

Velo Guide: This is a series of guides. I have the \"Nantes a Royan\" one, which is French. It's ok, but not fabulous (i.e., I don't think it shows campgrounds). BUT, there is an ENGLISH one for the Loire, which may be worth it for easily readable material. English Bike Guide

Bikeline: There's also a Bikeline book for this route which we can consider buying, depending on what we decide about other materials. This one is in German.
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TipGeneral Info04. Printed Materials for Velodyssey
This looks interesting. It's the Loire-Atlantic area, so basically exploring (thoroughly) the area west of Nantes without really going down the coast.

Velo Guide: Per above, I have the \"Nantes a Royan\" Velo Guide in French. Not crazy about it.

La Routard: This may be something to consider. It looks better than the Velo Guide one.

The Velodyssey web site has interactive maps that you can zoom and choose options for and then print. This looks pretty awesome. Example
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TipGeneral Info05. Electronic Navi - Eek!
OK, seriously... is it time for me to join the 21st Century? I'm thinking so, but I'm at a loss for even the most basic decisions like whether to use a GPS or an app on a phone. I'm leery of phone apps because I've had such terrible experiences trying to use phones in Europe.

We can download GPS tracks for Loire

And for Velodyssee

Articles for using a GPS:
Cycle Tourer
Travelling Two
Toms Bike Trip

Article about using phone app:
Long Haul Trekkers
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TipGeneral Info06. More Resources
This web site seems really good... Cycling-Loire. It also looks like it has information about luggage transfer and bike rentals.

Incidentally, I also have this, which shows all the cycle routes in France. Sort of a one-stop-shop map that Laura wanted to look at.
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TipGeneral InfoGroup Messages
Planning and prep e-mails sent to trip attendees.

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TipGeneral Info20. Sample Itinerary
NOTE that this is just a sample itinerary - the actual trip dates will be June 1-30
DateDestinationKmsAccommodation
May 1Fly to Nantes0Plane
May 2Arrive Nantes, Assemble Bikes15Nantes. Hostel? BnB?
May 3Train to Nevers10Nevers (Campground)
May 4Ride to Givry (near Cours-les-Barres)24Campground (Fourchambault)
May 5Ride to St-Satur43Campground (St-Satur)
May 6Ride to Bonny-sur-Loire32Campground beyond Bonny-sur-Loire
May 7Ride to Sully-sur-Loire50Campground Sully-sur-Loire
May 8Rest Day10Campground Sully-sur-Loire
May 9Ride to St-Denis-de-l'Hotel28Campground St-Denis-de-l'Hotel
May 10Ride to Orleans25Campground beyond Orleans
May 11Ride to Muides-sur-Loire50Campground at Muides-sur-Loire
May 12Ride to Chaumont-sur-Loire48.5Campground at Chaumont-sur-Loire
May 13Ride to Tours46Tours - Hostel? BnB?
May 14Rest Day10Tours - Hostel? BnB?
May 15Ride to Savigny-en-Veron53Campground at Savigny-en-Veron
May 16Ride to Gennes41.5Campground at Gennes
May 17Ride to Montjean sur-Loire55Campground at Montjean sur-Loire
May 18Ride to Mauves-sur-Loire52.5Campground at Mauves-sur-Loire
May 19Ride to Frossay (beyond Nantes)
*End of trip option
50Campground at Frossay
May 20Rest day in Frossay0Campground at Frossay
May 21La Vélodyssée: Ride to Pornic40?
May 22La Vélodyssée: Ride to La Barre-de-Monts52?
May 23La Vélodyssée: Noirmoutier par le Gois45Same as previous
May 24La Vélodyssée: Ride to Sables-d'Olonne65
May 25La Vélodyssée: Return to La Barre-de-Monts65
May 26La Vélodyssée: Return to Pornic52
May 27La Vélodyssée: Return to Frossay40
May 28Ride to Nantes35
May 29Errand Day in NantesNantes. Hostel? BnB?
May 30Errand Day in NantesNantes. Hostel? BnB?
May 31Fly Home15Home
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TipGeneral Info21. Route Specs - Loire
WhereKmSee?Lav?Camp?*Camp?
Nevers0xx
le Guetin14x
Cuffy17
Givry24x
La Charite-sur-Loire44.5x
St-Satur72x
Bannay76.5x
Cosne-Cours-sur-Loire*80x
Belleville-sur-Loire94.5xx
Bonny-sur-Loire102.5
Bonny-sur-Loire (Campground)104.5x
Chatillon-sur-Loire108x
Briare112.5x
Gien124x
Sully-sur-Loire153xx
St. Benoir-sur-Loire160x
Chateauneuf-sur-Loire172x
la Bourdonniere176.5x
Jargeau181x
Orleans202xx
St-Jean-de-la-Ruelle205.5x
Beaugency230x
Muides-sur-Loire246xx
Huisseau-sur-Cosson261x
Blois272.5xx
Cande-sur-Beuvron287.5x
Chaumont-sur-Loire294.5xx
Amboise314.5xxx
Lussault-sur-Loire321x
les Fosses Bouteilles332x
Tours349.5x
Savonnieres361.5x
Langeais371x
Chateau d'Usse384x
Contebault391x
Savigny-en-Veron399x
Candes-St-Martin409x
Montsoreau414x
Turquant417.5x
Saumur428.5xx
la Houssaie437.5x
Tour Treves445.5x
Gennes449xx
St-Remy-la-Varenne459.5x
St-Mathurin-sur-Loire461x
la Dagueniere472x
Angers*480x
les-Ponts-de-Ce (near Angers)480x
Another campground481.5x
Bouchemaine487.5x
la Possonniere497x
Chalonnes-sur-Loire506x
Montjean sur-Loire516x
Ingrandes520.5x
Ancenis536xx
Oudon545x
St-Simon557x
Mauves-sur-Loire558.5x
la Bourniere565.5x
Ste-Luce-sur-Loire568x
Nantes574xx
le Migron608.4x
Paimboeuf619.4x
St-Brevin-les-Pins *END LOIRE633x
*Campground off the main route - extra distance required
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TipGeneral Info22. Route Specs - La Vélodyssée
There are campgrounds all down the coast, but I don't know if they all take tents. We should have a proper cycle touring guide to find out.
WhereKmSee?Lav?Camp?*Camp?
St-Brevin-les-Pins0
St-Michel-Chef-Chef10x
*Pointe de St-Gildas+12
Pornic26
La Barre-de-Monts78x
*Noirmoutier par le Gois (Island)+45
Saint-Gilles-Croix-de-Vie113x
Sables-d'Olonne143x
La Tranche-sur-Mer191x
Marans236
*La *Venise verte* au depart de Marans+50-80km
La Rochelle271x
*L'ile de Re au depart de la Rochelle+50
*Bonus/Diversion - off the main route
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TipHandyAccueil Velo
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TipHandyLoire Valley by Train

Thanks to the \"Train Vélo Loire\" (Train Bike Loire) system, you can board trains on the Interloire line with your bicycle, from mid-June to mid-September. The service is free and has dedicated personnel for taking care of your bike from the moment you board to when you get it back when you get off. This allows you to easily skip stages or return to your point of departure.0
TipTo DoMaps.me
Load required maps into Maps.me
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2019-06-01: Head to France
ServiceOtherBike transport
Extra bags - $100\n
Bicycles - $100
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TipGeneral InfoGet to the airport - RnB
Tannis driving us
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TipTravel ResourceRegistration of Canadian Abroad

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TravelFlightLaura Flight Details
TS 408, arriving CDG Sun, 02 Jun 2019, 08:500Vancouver YVRParis CDG
TravelFlightAnn Flight Details
WS 80, YYC->YHZ->CDG arriving June 2, 10AM0Calgary YYCParis CDG
TravelFlightBrent & Rhonda Flight Details
Cost is for two people, round trip
WJ 316 YEG -> YHZ at 8AM. WJ 80 YHZ -> CDG at 10:55PM, arr CDG 10AM
Per customer service rep Monica on 2019-01-11, you do not have to call WestJet ahead of time to reserve for the bicycles.
1637.56Edmonton YEGParis CDG
TravelFlightGeoff & Lynn Travel Details
Geoff & Lynn are actually leaving Calgary on Friday May 31.0Calgary YYCParis CDG
2019-06-02: Stay Hotel Le Vert Galant
AccommodationHotelHotel Le Vert Galant

Cost is for four people (family suite), one night.
Approx 10km from CDG - supposedly rideable by bicyle. Right beside the canal pathway, aka EV3.
152Villepinte
ActivityCycleCDG to Villepinte
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TipReminderFind your friends
Ann, Brent & Rhonda are all arriving WestJet, Terminal 1. Laura is arriving Air Transat, Terminal 3.
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TravelCycleRide CDG to Hotel

Take free CDGVal tram from any terminal to Roissypole CDGVal tram stop, then follow directions from web page.

If we can't (or don't want to) ride, we will have to figure out a taxi or uber at the airport.
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2019-06-03: Travel to Nevers
AccommodationCampCamping in Nevers (map)

1.2km from the Gare (across the river)0Nevers
ActivityCycleVillepinte to Gare de Bercy
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TravelCycleEV3 to Gare de Bercy

Ride the Canal de l'Ourcq (aka EV3) from the hotel to Gare de Bercy, approx 25km.

If we can't (or don't want to) ride, use RER B train to get to Gare de Bercy.
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TravelTrainTrain to Nevers
Cost is for six tickets. A group of four received a discount and the remaining two paid full price. Cost is shared equally among all.
Conf RNDXSD for 1PM for Rhonda, Brent, Geoff, Lynn
Conf RNNZLK for 2PM for Laura & Ann
246Paris Bercy
Nevers
2019-06-04: Ride to Beffes
AccommodationCampVélocamping de Charbrolles Beffes

This place is so great. It’s very small with only five tent pitches and some cabins, but great amenities, and very interesting - built on the old cement factory grounds.0Beffes
ActivityCycleNevers to Beffes
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MealDinnerLa Crozet des Chemines
Wonderful food and beautiful presentation. Super nice and friendly staff.

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2019-06-05: Rainy rest day in Beffes
AccommodationCampVélocamping de Charbrolles Beffes again
ActivityTourBeffes Cement Factory
Our campground proprietress, Sylvie, gave us a tour of the cement factory today. It was really interesting!

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2019-06-06: Ride to Saint-Satur
AccommodationCampLes Portes de Sancerre
0St. Thibault
ActivityCycleRide to Sancerre
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2019-06-07: Ride to Briare
AccommodationCampLes Martinettes , Briare

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ActivityCycleRide to Briare
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2019-06-08: Ride to Sully
AccommodationCampJardin de Sully
0Sully sur Loire
ActivityCycleRide to Sully
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2019-06-09: Ride to Jargeau
AccommodationCampIsle aux Moulins, Jargeau
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ActivityCycleRide to Jargeau
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2019-06-10: Ride to Olivet
AccommodationCampMunicipal Camping Olivet
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ActivityCycleCross-country to Municipal Camping Olivet
South of Orleans
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2019-06-11: Ride to Beaugency
AccommodationCampCamping Val de Flux
We stayed here in 2015 as well. I recognized it from the cycle path down to the campground0
ActivityCycleRide to Beaugency
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2019-06-12: Ride to Val de Blois
AccommodationCampCamping Val de Blois
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ActivityCycleRide to Val de Blois
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2019-06-13: Ride to Chaumont sur Loire via Blois
AccommodationCampCamping Municipal Grosse Grève
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ActivityCycleRide to Chaumont sur Loire
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ActivitySight SeeChâteau du Magie
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2019-06-14: Ride to Bléré
AccommodationCampOnly Camp at Bléré
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ActivityCycleBléré via Chenonceau castle
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ActivitySight SeeChenonceau Castle
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2019-06-15: Ride to la Ville aux Dames
AccommodationCampLes Acacias at la Ville aux Dames
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ActivityCycleRide to Les Acacias at la Ville aux Dames
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2019-06-16: Ride to Bréhémont
AccommodationCampCamping Loire et Château
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ActivityCycleRide to Bréhémont
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2019-06-17: Ride to Saumur
AccommodationCampCamping de l’Isle d’Offard
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ActivityCycleRide to Saumur
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2019-06-18: Rest day in Saumur
AccommodationCampCamping de l’Isle d’Offard again
2019-06-19: Ride to St. Mathurin sur Loire
AccommodationCampCamping Port la Vallée
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ActivityCycleRide to St Mathurin
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2019-06-20: Ride to La Possonnière
AccommodationCampCamping de la Possonnière
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ActivityCycleRide to la Possonnière
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2019-06-21: Ride to Ancenis
AccommodationCampCamping Île Mouchet
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ActivityCycleRide to Ancenis
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2019-06-22: Ride to Thouaré-sur-Loire
AccommodationCampBelle Rivière
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ActivityCycleRide to Thouaré-sur-Loire
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2019-06-23: Errands and fun in Nantes
AccommodationHotelAppart’City Confort Nantes
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ActivityCycleRide into, and around, Nantes
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2019-06-24: Train to Rennes
AccommodationCampCamping Gayeulles
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ActivityCycleTransit
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TravelTrainTo Rennes connecting in Redon
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2019-06-25: Day in Rennes
AccommodationCampCamping Gayeulles again
ActivityCycleAround Rennes
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2019-06-26: Mont St Michel
AccommodationCampCamping Gayeulles again
ActivityCycleTransit
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TravelBusSNCF Autobus to Mont St Michel
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2019-06-27: Train to Paris
AccommodationHotelibis Styles Paris CDG

Price is for four people (4-adult suite) for three nights.765Paris CDG
ActivityCycleTransit
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TravelTrainNantes to Paris
Two options:
- TGV to Massy Palaiseau, which intersects with RER B, and is south of Paris near Orly airport.
- TGF to Paris Gare Montparnasse, which is CLOSE TO RER B Denfert-Rochereau Gare (but doesn't intersect), and is in south-central Paris.
0NantesParis
TravelTrainRER B to Ibis CDG
Use RER B to get to CDG. Mind the restrictions on bicycles on RER trains during rush-hour.0Massy Palaiseau or MontparnasseCDG
2019-06-28: Prep Day and Steph visit
AccommodationHotelibis Styles Paris CDG again
TipGeneral InfoSource Bike Boxes: Air France
Laura says Air France has boxes but will not guarantee them as it is first come first serve.0
TipGeneral InfoSource Bike Boxes: Reparateur de Bicyclettes

Second choice after Air France. Not sure they still sell boxes.0
TipGeneral InfoSource Bike and Packing Boxes: Cartonland

Cartonland looks to sell bike boxes, and is somewhat accessible via RER B (not super accessible). We'd need the 60 pouces (1650x340x850) box. Note oversize and overweight guidelines for WestJet:
- 45kg constitutes overweight
- 115\" total dimensions constitutes oversize

Get boxes from Cartonland ONLY if we need bike boxes from them. Otherwise the other options are more convenient.
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TipGeneral InfoSource Packing Boxes: Media Boxes

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TipGeneral InfoSource Packing Boxes: Flexi Stockage

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TipReminderPacking Materials
Get the packing materials
Need:
- Moving boxes for non-bike stuff
- Bike boxes (hopefully not)
- Packing tape
- Sharpie
- Bubble wrap
- Padding for pokey bits. Laura says: I'd recommend padding for the derailleur - foam or something else, maybe bubble wrap, although the \"pokey parts\" of the derailleur might deflate the bubble wrap and negate the padding effect; you might want to take the chain off the cogs so it's got some slack (and possibly bring a spare chain), and also recommend pipe insulation for separating the handlebar from the main frame before taping them together to reduce scratches/fix the handlebar securely. I think the pedals can go in carry on? I am going to bring some padding for the crank as well probably.
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TipReminderWestjet Bike Info
How to pack the bikes.
WestJet web site says:

WestJet may refuse carriage of improperly packaged bicycles.

A bicycle must be packed flat in a bicycle bag or box.

Before flying with your bike, please:
- Remove pedals (Jorg says cranks too).
- Partially deflate your tires.
- Fix handlebars sideways.
- Pack the bicycle in a box or bag to protect your bike and prevent leakage from bicycles containing hydraulic fluid.
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2019-06-29: Prep Day 2 and Ian visit
AccommodationHotelibis Styles Paris CDG again
ServiceOtherLuggage wrapping
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2019-06-30: Laura Leaves France Boo Hoo
AccommodationHotelibis Styles Paris CDG #2
Cost is for 3 people for one night250Paris CDG
TipGeneral InfoCDG Map

See Map:
- Terminal 1: WestJet
- Terminal 3: Air Transat
- Terminal 2: ibis
- Roissypole Gare: In between Terms 3 and 2
- RER B stops at Term 1 & Term 2
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TravelFlightLaura Flight Details
TS 409 Depart Sun, 30 Jun 2019, 10:300Paris CDGVancouver YVR
2019-07-01: Leave France Boo Hoo Two
TravelFlightFly Home
WS 9: CDG to YYC, 14:20 (Ann, Brent, Rhonda)
WS 155: YYC to YEG, 21:00 (Brent, Rhonda)
0ParisEdmonton / Calgary